Sunday, November 30, 2008

Thoughts about Bedfellows

pumpkin pie and spinach metaphor

This metaphor that Peterson asserts in his introduction is full of gravy.  He links pumpkin pie with late night comedy in the context of a PEW study that suggests 61% of Americans below the age of 30 get their political information from that outlet.  The metaphor also implies that people hate news, spinach being hated (recalling GHWB as well).  Spinach, though, is also linked to strength alla Pop-eye with a later line of Peterson's "topical comedy is an inadequate substitute for news."  So, what is actually going on with this metaphor?

Press corps dinner, Colbert

Peterson argues that Colbert was heroic, not because of the jokes themselves, but because of his role as underminer of the man sitting next to him.  He continues this idea later contrasting Colbert to the medieval court jester.  Peterson implies that they are not the same, and that in the 1200s, Colbert might have lost his head.  


Political Satire vs. Comedy about Politics

This is arguably one of the most important distinction Peterson draws in his book about distinctions (even the title sets up a dialectic).  He argues that Comedy about politics is anti political in nature, he demonstrates this with the timeless joke which I'll now update - if Hillary, Obama, and McCain were in a boat in the middle of the Atlantic, and the boat flipped over and all of them drowned, who would win?  America.  It is apathetic and at its core makes the claim that politics are bad.  Political satire, practiced by Colbert, Stewart, and Maher, engages politics.  He later makes the point that one of the most endearing qualities of Stewart is that he in fact "cares" about politics.  

Now, if one were to envision this dialectic as a Venn Diagram, the deconstruction of this argument becomes readily apparent.  The late night jokes of Letterman, Leno, etc. stem not from a deep apathy, for if an apathy that deep existed no one would ever want to hear jokes about politics.  Rather they stem from an even deeper desire to engage politics, tempered by a cynicism born of the distance (the close door, the back room deal, etc.) that both political comedy and real news journalism maintains between the public and the government.  

Only satire, as Peterson demonstrates later, has the power the articulate that distance, thus making it manageable and, most importantly, ignorable.    

conflation of journalistic and comedic ethics (crossfire)

Those were all warm ups.  This, as demonstrated by the oft cited crossfire video , is perhaps a key feature of any discussion involving media, comedy, and politics.  After familiarizing ourselves with everyone from Murdoch to Tocqueville, we have a grasp on the role of the fourth estate.  Yet, that fourth estate has now, according to many, lost its way in light of the conglomorization (good new word) and the theatricitization (I went the extra mile to make that one) of mainstream media.  It has reached the point where, excuse my language, bow tie wearing douches pretend to participate in actual reporting, yet are so confused between the theatrics of comedy and the theatrics of journalism, no one can level the conversational playing field and explain the difference.  

So, this is all my post so I can skip it in class tomorrow so we can have a real discussion.  What do you guys think is the difference between comedic ethics and journalistic ethics?  Where does that distinction fall apart?  And how can we, the public, put it back together in some semi-comprehensible, useful sort of way?


6 comments:

Steven P said...

Well address this in class tomorrow, but have comedians like Stewart and Colbert given up there right to use the comedic excuse. They do present real political discourse so they should be held to the same journalistic standards.

Matt Williams said...

Are Stewart and Colbert really giving a genuine comedic excuse, or are they using it disingenuously to hide from some of partisan criticism?

Just because one participates in political discourse, does that carry with it an obligation of journalistic standards?

Let's even concede that they are participating in not only political discourse, but journalistic discourse. Does that mean that are now morally or even legally obligated to operate with journalistic standards?

Do journalist even operate with journalistic standards?

What are in fact viable journalistic standards in today's time of journalistic decline?

Cranky Doc said...

South Park and the Simpsons sometimes engage in political discourse, too. Must they also be held to "journalistic standards." Is there a line here, Steven, or a continuum. . . . .

Steven P said...

Its not only their engagement in political discourse (and possibly all the other stuff MCW said) but also the fact that they are viewed by the public as a news show. South Park and the Simpsons aren't "News Programs" with a satirical twist, they are cartoons that make political jokes. The Daily Show and possibly the Colbert Report are clearly news programs and are perceived by the public as such.

Matt Williams said...

Okay Steve. I'll bite. Let's assume you're right. The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are "clearly" news programs. So what?

You mention that they should be held to journalistic standards. Standards of what? Ethics? Responsibilities?

Steven P said...

Responsibilities, I don't think ethics exist in journalism, we've seen that by now.